{"id":4254,"date":"2010-07-09T23:26:22","date_gmt":"2010-07-10T04:26:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/myhalalkitchen.com\/?p=4254"},"modified":"2019-11-02T14:45:33","modified_gmt":"2019-11-02T19:45:33","slug":"my-interview-with-jules-dervaes-of-the-path-to-freedom-the-modern-urban-homestead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/myhalalkitchen.com\/my-interview-with-jules-dervaes-of-the-path-to-freedom-the-modern-urban-homestead\/","title":{"rendered":"My Interview with Jules Dervaes of The Path to Freedom: The Modern Urban Homestead"},"content":{"rendered":"

Many of you who follow this blog or actively\u00a0participate\u00a0on the MHK Facebook Page<\/a> probably remember my several mentions of the Dervaes Family<\/strong>, the nearly self-sufficient Californians who garden just about every inch of their modest Pasadena home and even sell their harvest to local chefs and restauranteurs.<\/p>\n

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I first learned about Jules Dervaes<\/strong> a few years ago while watching a clip on ABC Nightline<\/a><\/strong>. I was instantly \u00a0intrigued by this interview\u00a0which showed how he\u00a0gardened just about every inch of his front and back yard\u00a0with edible goods and <\/em>how he got his three grown\u00a0children so actively involved in the lifestyle of this very modern, urban, self-sufficient\u00a0homestead<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

I was recently\u00a0fortunate enough to\u00a0discover\u00a0the Urban Homestead<\/strong>‘s\u00a0online activity: a\u00a0website<\/a>, blog<\/a>, their tweets on Twitter<\/a> and connection with the public on Facebook <\/a>. To that end, I’m so excited and grateful to\u00a0be able to bring you my own interview<\/strong> with Jules Dervaes<\/strong>, the patriarach of this urban homestead<\/strong>, whom we can learn so much from about living a life free of the constraints of super-consumerism and significantly reduce our carbon imprint on the earth, without sacrificing happiness and wholesome living.<\/p>\n

I hope you’ll read the entire interview all the way\u00a0through, as it contains wonderful and insightful responses to the questions I thought you\u00a0might ask him yourself. It’s exciting and liberating\u00a0to learn how to live off the big or small space you occupy right now. I’m learning so much every time I re-cap the interview.<\/p>\n

After reading, do you think you could do what Mr. Dervaes has done?\u00a0 Has it inspired you to even want<\/em> to do what he’s done? Please do leave your comments at the end of this post and let’s start a community discussion on living a more eco-friendly, self-sufficienct lifestyle<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Here are the questions & responses:<\/p>\n

From what I’ve read about you, it seems as though the introduction of genetically modified food was the real catalyst for you beginning the urban homestead at your Pasadena, California home. Was this the case? If so, why was this such an important turning point for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The creation of <\/strong>the Path to Freedom Urban Homestead<\/strong> was the<\/strong> result of my long-held beliefs in living simply and caring for the environment.<\/strong> GMOs were the catalyst for my becoming a full-time homesteader <\/strong>in the city<\/strong> in 2001<\/strong>, but my journey began long before that<\/strong> in the 1970s. (I have written <\/strong>in more depth <\/strong>about those early years in <\/strong>Mother Earth News<\/a> <\/em><\/strong>magazine. <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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It was<\/strong> i<\/strong>n 2000, <\/strong>when I was living in Pasadena, that, in an <\/strong>angry reaction to the news that U.S. biotech firms were bent on introducing GMOs into the food system, I took the next radical step towards becoming an urban pioneer. I <\/strong>had<\/strong> to protect my family from this mad experiment <\/strong>by providing<\/strong> them with the real food we could grow ourselves.<\/strong> I was <\/strong>shocked and <\/strong>incredulous\u2014and felt helpless<\/strong>\u2014<\/strong>that I was at the mercy of such corporate <\/strong>irresponsibility<\/strong>. <\/strong>This threat forced me to take action. <\/strong>I feared for<\/strong> my children: What kind of<\/strong> world<\/strong> was<\/strong> I<\/strong> handing down to<\/strong> them? <\/strong>That became <\/strong>the <\/strong>turning <\/strong>point<\/strong> for me<\/strong> when<\/strong> \u201c<\/strong>enough<\/strong> was<\/strong> ENOUGH!\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Can you describe for our readers what exactly is an urban homestead?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A suburban or city home <\/strong>on a fraction of an acre<\/strong> where <\/strong>an individual or family<\/strong> lives<\/strong> by principles of low-impact, sustainable self-sufficiency through activities such as gardening for food production<\/strong> and preservation<\/strong>, cottage industry, extensive recycli<\/strong>ng, and generally simple living\u2014including conservation measures and a<\/strong>n old-fashioned DIY<\/strong> self-reliance.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Most people feel overwhelmed by the concept of having a small garden, let alone a larger one such as what you have on your property? What advice can you give to first-time urban homesteaders who may think it’s “too much work”?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Every project will, at the start, entail more work and time <\/strong>just <\/strong>because it is new. It took me 25 years to get my garden to this stage, <\/strong>but<\/strong> I began by planting just a few plants in a small space.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

So, for those who feel overwhelmed, pick out vegetables or herbs you would enjoy eating, that are hardy and<\/strong> do well even for rookie green thumbs. <\/strong>Ask your local nursery<\/strong> staff<\/strong> which ones are best for your area and season of year.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Make sure you have good soil to start with. If not, purchase bags of organic compost to amend it. <\/strong>“If you don’t have healthy soil, you don’t have healthy plants.” Feed the soil<\/strong> first,<\/strong> with a regimen that includes mulching and compost.<\/strong> Any leafy g<\/strong>reens can be <\/strong>grown <\/strong>easi<\/strong>ly in containers so you can start getting good results right away.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

What did you do to get your family so intricately involved in homesteading–and enjoying and believing in this type of lifestyle?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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I followed my father\u2019s example. He had his children work alongside him doing yard work. We helped him clear a <\/strong>\u201c<\/strong>jungle<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong> on our <\/strong>Tampa, <\/strong>Florida property. By working together as a family, my father was setting an example, <\/strong>imprinting his work ethic on me, <\/strong>and <\/strong>so <\/strong>I did the same with my children. <\/strong>By their<\/strong> being involved when they were young, my children<\/strong> were able to experience firsthand, for themselves, the rewards of this way of life. After a while, having experienced success, they came to realize the potential of homesteading. <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

When they see what is happening in our world and hear about the critical problems we face, they don\u2019t feel helpless because they are doing something about those problems. They have an immediate response to troubling <\/strong>world news\u2014something they can do with their hands versus just talking and <\/strong>worrying <\/strong>about global conditions <\/strong>but n<\/strong>ot getting anywhere. Here t<\/strong>hey feel empowered. And you can\u2019t beat empowerment as <\/strong>a <\/strong>motivator.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Aside from growing and maintaining the garden itself, what else are you and your family doing to live off the land?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\nAfter food, <\/strong>our family<\/strong> tackled the areas of energy usage, transportation, water and waste, plus established an extensive outreach work online and in person. We continue to <\/strong>hone our<\/strong> b<\/strong>ack-to-basics skills<\/strong>. Recent projects include<\/strong> setting up a backyard aquaponics s<\/strong>ystem (fish farming and plants) and re-using our greywater from the bathtub for below-ground irrigation.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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What challenges do you face having the urban homestead?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Lack of space! But that obstacle has<\/strong> led us to become inventive about using every square inch of space available for growing food\u2014horizontal AND vertical. We still struggle to find enough space for working on <\/strong>additional<\/strong> projects and for <\/strong>storage<\/strong>.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Water is the most crucial challenge for living off the land in an urban setting with a semi-arid climate. We <\/strong>will be <\/strong>dependent on the city\u2019s water supply<\/strong> unless we receive the blessing of rain<\/strong> in due season<\/strong>.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Today\u2019s<\/strong> unpredictable weather patterns<\/strong> with extremes of temperatures <\/strong>have added a whole other level of uncertainty to growing our own food<\/strong> in recent years.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

What challenges, if any, do you anticipate in the future with regards to your urban homestead?<\/strong><\/p>\n

In a word, GROWTH.<\/strong> My adult children need to develop <\/strong>their own homesteads,<\/strong> and this <\/strong>expansion <\/strong>cannot be done here in <\/strong>city. We have plans to <\/strong>establish a<\/strong> self-sufficient,<\/strong> agrarian<\/strong> community <\/strong>based on the homestead model that I have developed <\/strong>and are looking worldwide for possible locations.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Can you give our readers an example of the types of animals, plants, vegetables and edible flowers you grow on your land?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Before getting any animals, make sure you first check with your city\u2019s or county\u2019s codes. We have taken <\/strong>great <\/strong>pains to make sure our animals are well cared for and don\u2019t cause any nuisance for our neighbors. On the homestead we raise c<\/strong>hickens, ducks, goats, bees, worms and, now, fish.<\/strong> This work gradually evolved over a ten year period.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

In the course of a year, <\/strong>the<\/strong> garden grows over 350 varieties of vegetables, herbs, fruit, and edible flowers. We try to find heirlo<\/strong>o<\/strong>m varieties. With the summer crops coming on, we will soon be enjoying <\/strong>tomatoes,<\/strong> peppers, eggplant,<\/strong> cucumbers, green beans,<\/strong> apples, blueberries,<\/strong> plus common herbs and <\/strong>also <\/strong>edible flowers, such as nasturtiums and dianthus<\/strong>.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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What advice can you give to apartment, condo and townhouse dwellers with very little (if any at all) space to grow edibles?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Self-watering containers are good for balconies: they don\u2019t leak, and they have a <\/strong>water <\/strong>reservoir. Neighbors <\/strong>can <\/strong>get together and share small spaces. Other people <\/strong>cultivate<\/strong> a <\/strong>small<\/strong> piece of their rental property<\/strong>\u2014<\/strong>take space you don\u2019t think you have, and turn it into a pint<\/strong>-sized garden or odd-shaped bed, for example, long and narrow against a fence. And community gardens are becoming more popular, too, for people who don\u2019t have their own land.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

I advise people that w<\/strong>hatever your situation, <\/strong>return to the old ways<\/strong> of doing things and find at least one alternative to the modern way.<\/strong> If you can\u2019t grow it yourself, buy it at a farmer\u2019s market rather than the grocery store. Don\u2019t buy processed food. Cook fresh foods yourself rather than eating out.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

What advice can you give to folks living in areas of the country and the world where edibles cannot be grown all year round? Is it still possible to have an urban homestead in climates other than southern California?<\/strong><\/p>\n

In colder climates, people can extend the growing season by using cold frames, row covers and greenhouses, as well as over-wintering certain root crops. Yes, we have a long growing season, but we also are at the mercy of the weather. Southern California is<\/strong> not a<\/strong> paradise<\/strong>\u2014<\/strong>we have hot summers and not much rainfall. <\/strong>One year, we lost almost all of <\/strong>our tomato crop (and, thus,<\/strong> a<\/strong> major portion of our summer cash intake). <\/strong>Our climate<\/strong> is challenging in its own way, and the water crisis is only worsening<\/strong> across the entire <\/strong>southwestern<\/strong> U.S<\/strong>.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

If we had a shorter growing season, then we would need <\/strong>a lot <\/strong>more land. Learning how to preserve the harvest becomes even more important when<\/strong> you can\u2019t grow year <\/strong>round.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Do you really generate 6,000 lbs. of edibles on 1\/10 of an acre (4300 square feet)? I understand you sell your surplus edibles to local chefs to serve in their restaurants as well as to neighbors? Has the current economic situation reduced or increased interest in your fresh edibles?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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We<\/strong> grew 6,000 pounds in our two best years. In recent years, due to a number of factors, we are averaging over 5,000 pounds annually. Our outreach has expanded exponentially, which takes<\/strong> more and more<\/strong> time away from the gar<\/strong>den. One year, we re-roofed the house, doing much of the removal and prep work ourselves, so we <\/strong>neglected the garden<\/strong>. Finally, the <\/strong>extreme <\/strong>changes in wea<\/strong>ther have affected our harvests in the last three years.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, <\/strong>some restaurants and caterers have reduced their produce orders as the economy has impacted their businesses. However, we have seen an increase in the number of individuals buying our produce.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

If people visit Pasadena, which restaurants would they be able to visit where they could eat your edibles, particularly the salad that’s named after you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Two restaurants in Pasadena that offer <\/strong>DerVaes Gardens<\/a><\/strong> mesclun salad mix are Marston\u2019s and Elements. <\/strong>Individuals<\/strong> can also order produce in advance and pick it up from our front porch \u201cfarm stand.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Is your home open to visitors for tours? Do you sell garden design plans for the urban homesteader?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The urban homestead is a viable working project<\/strong> used to provide our<\/strong> income<\/strong> from our garden. It is not for demonstrations or public exhibit<\/strong>s<\/strong>; therefore,<\/strong> we are not set up for drop-in visits. <\/strong>B<\/strong>ecause urban homesteading is gaining in popularity, we are unable to handle all the tour requests, so we have focused on bringing the urban homestead<\/a> to you<\/strong> online<\/strong> <\/strong>with thousands<\/strong> of photos and dozens of videos.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>We also produced an award-winning, short documentary, <\/span>Homegrown Revolution<\/span><\/a>,<\/span><\/strong> which<\/strong> is inspiring others <\/strong>around the world to grow their own food. Because people face specific challenges in different areas of the world, <\/strong>we<\/strong> established Freedom Gardens<\/a>, <\/strong> a free, online social networking site <\/strong>where backyard gardeners can help each other as neighbors did in <\/strong>times past.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

We do have the layout of our yard on paper<\/strong>,<\/strong> and we are constantly updating it.\u00a0 Every planting season (at least twice a year), <\/strong>my son, <\/strong>Justin writes down on this schematic what he planted in which bed and how the entire yard is laid out.\u00a0 After many years of doing this, we have created an invaluable<\/strong> resource of record-keeping. <\/strong>However, the layout of our yard and this information isn’t available to the public<\/strong>. To put these<\/strong> sign<\/strong>ificant materials in book form would be labor intensive and take us away from the garden work. The urban homestead is<\/strong> the life’s work and i<\/strong>nvestment of the Dervaes family, built up <\/strong>with hard-earned experience and tested over decades.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>What inspires you to keep doing what you’re doing?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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On <\/strong>just <\/strong>a basic leve<\/strong>l, it is my family\u2019s business, our source of <\/strong>income.<\/strong> And the incredible freshness and flavor of the fo<\/strong>od cannot be beat.<\/strong> On a deeper level,<\/strong> I find a purpose in doing something meaningful and <\/strong>am motivated by the challenge of <\/strong>learning new things. <\/strong>Also, <\/strong>I<\/strong> take my r<\/strong>esponsibility<\/strong> seriously <\/strong>as a parent to provide<\/strong> for my family<\/strong>\u2019s<\/strong> future. <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

I feel it is truly <\/strong>a matter of <\/strong>our <\/strong>survival. Yet, my family and I have been blessed to do this creative work surrounded by so much beauty.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Do you think it’s possible for every American to live like you do? Do you think it’s imperative at this juncture when economic, agricultural and environmental crises loom, that every American live the way you do?<\/strong><\/p>\n

One day there will be a time when people<\/strong> will have to make drastic changes. Making some of those changes now reduces the shock of doing it all at once, later. Because Americans consume the most, they will be the most shocked when the resources are no longer there.<\/strong> As the world situation worsens, people will need to commit fully to a different, non-mainstream way of life. <\/strong>You<\/strong> can start a project of change whatever the circumstances, but <\/strong>you<\/strong> cannot keep straddling two positions, occupying the middle ground.<\/strong> A step backwards truly is progress when you choose a path <\/strong>away from<\/em><\/strong> the cliff. . . .<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

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Any last thoughts, comments or projects you are involved in that you would like our readers to know about?<\/strong><\/p>\n

What Path to Freedom represents is a lifestyle change, a way to transition<\/strong> from this system to a better one. This difference sets us apart from other projects because<\/strong> we <\/strong>have created<\/strong> a <\/strong>real<\/strong> model where the tangible results of our changes simply speak for themselve<\/strong>s<\/strong>.<\/strong> We are living it.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Future plans include the establishment of \u201cHomesteadville,\u201d a village-scale project that takes our practical, personal solution to the next level.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Find the Dervaes Family and the Urban Homestead online<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.UrbanHomestead.org<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.FreedomGardens.org<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.FreedomSeeds.org<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.PeddlersWagon.com<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.HomegrownRevolutionFilm.com<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.DerVaesGardens.com<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.JulesDervaes.com<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

Connect Socially with the Dervaes Family<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

http:\/\/twitter.com\/urbanhomestead<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dervaes<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pathtofreedom<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.myspace.com\/pathtofreedom<\/a>
\nhttp:\/\/www.youtube.com\/dervaes<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

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